Logicalis is a longtime EMC partner. What's your view on the new Dell EMC?

They're a formidable player that we can't ignore. Generally speaking, they have the fabric of still what is a really robust technology portfolio. They've done a lot with revamping their channel organization even with their new leader that they brought in. Their programs are pretty robust, so they have a strong position there.

They have some work to do in the convergence and hyper-converged space. They have good offerings, don’t get me wrong, but they need to do a little bit more work there. Networking is obviously a void for them, so their partner strategy around a holistic infrastructure solution I think needs to be enhanced.