What is your organization doing in terms of cloud education, certifications, or training for your partners?

Andy Stewart: "We’ll never be just an AWS or an Azure reseller. The margins are just too low. It’s too low for us, let alone bringing in a partner. What we [are doing] is we offer a managed layer around [those services]. To justify that managed layer, we’re investing a lot in training and certifications, in automation and orchestration.